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I hate to say this but PR people just don’t get metrics

Well, that’s what I thought before I joined a PR firm and yes, I admit that I was wrong.  My analytics background stems from managing multimillion dollar search campaigns; where one tenth of a percentage point made a difference in the performance of a campaign. Every dollar invested was tracked, measured and easily backed by a strong ROI. Transitioning into social media several years ago has brought an entirely new set of metrics to the table that I am still learning to this day.

In the past, I have always reported into some sort of web marketing organization and due to the nature of my job, I have worked closely with internal PR teams on various projects. To be completely honest, I’ve always had this particular perception that PR metrics were soft. Although I never said anything out loud, I would consistently chuckle under my breath when I saw something like the following on a “what we are measuring” slide:

  • Media Coverage
  • Sentiment
  • Impressions

And now a new chapter emerges in my career and I find myself working for a PR firm, Edelman Digital.  From a metrics perspective, I honestly thought that I would bring to the table significant metrics experience due to my “direct marketing” background. Boy was I wrong.  I am probably the dumbest person in the room when it comes to measuring social media.   I am surrounded by colleagues that not only understand metrics but are pristine in the way they can communicate those metrics to others and correlate them back to business value.  I guess the key takeaways for me are – assuming is bad (very bad), stereotyping is bad (very bad) and I work for a pretty kick a$$ team and learn something new every day (yay for me).

But the reality is that social media metrics in general are soft.

What I mean by soft is that most of it is based on assumptions.  Now this isn’t a bad thing at all; in fact, brand marketing and advertising is even softer, yet less scrutinized than social media.  I have been asked questions like “what’s the value/ROI of corporate blogging?” and my response is something like “well, what’s the value/ROI of billboard advertising?” And to take it one step further, I really don’t see the ROI of organizations that have 50+ people on a web team to support a corporate website that no one really goes to anymore, but that’s just me.

But the issue is that we now have 10, I mean 100 different ways to measure social media that the metrics become diluted and meaningless. I can’t walk into an executive’s office and show him/her X number of slides with a multitude of different ways to measure the effectiveness of a campaign. They want to know how much they are investing and how much they can expect to see in return. Number of comments, RSS subscribers, twitter followers, retweets and a sentiment analysis is meaningless.  Until we in the industry (and some smart entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley who can create the technology) can confidently attribute a valuable metric to some action or interaction on the social web; the metrics will always be soft.

The best case scenario would be data that can accurately attribute a monetary value to thinks like:

-          Tweets/Retweets/Lists/Followers

-          Comment/Likes on wall posts/fans

-          Comments on blogs/subscribers/RSS

-          Everything else..

Until then, we do the best we can and … assume most of it.

So what is a valuable metric?

For most it’s sales. Dell Outlet can confidently attribute a few million dollars to their twitter engagement which I am sure cannibalized a percentage of sales from Dell.com and the products they sell at full price. For others, it could very well be reach, sentiment of just growing a community. However, if this is the case, the metrics should then match the objectives.  Executives and marketing managers cannot expect an increase in sales if the business objective is to grow the community.  A more effective strategy would be to build a community, earn their trust and delicately ask for their permission to market your services; a wise proverb from Seth Godin.

Bottom line is this.

Social media is important. It gives brands a chance to be human and do the things that humans do; listen, converse, love, give and at times ignore.  Measuring these behaviors is difficult yet we all know that it makes a tremendous difference when brands actively engage in the social web.

Metrics are behind; we all know that and I am sure they will catch up. Until then, we have to do our best to identify the right KPIs for each engagement and limit those metrics to 4 or 5 data points.

If a brand engages on the web for the sole purpose of selling products, they are in the wrong place.

So now that this post is going all over the place, I will stop.

About the author

Michael Brito

Michael Brito is a Senior Vice President of Social Business Planning at Edelman Digital. He helps his clients transform their organizations to be more open, collaborative and socially proficient; with the end result of creating shared value with employees, partners and customers. Prior to Edelman, Michael worked for Intel and Hewlett Packard in various social media marketing roles. Opinions posted here are his own. Feel free to follow him on Twitter, subscribe to this blog or read some more of his content on Social Business News.

  • http://disqus.com Ro Gupta

    Just came from an event yesterday where feeling was that the big issue in soc media metrics is lack of standards — no one's stepped up and established IAB-like units. Agree? If so, who/what/when is solution coming according to you Edelmaniacs (was i the first to coin this name btw, or seen it before? ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Britopian Michael Brito

    I think there are no standards because — as mentioned in the post — most of the metrics are based on assumptions. It's hard to drive standards when there is so much objectivity in a data set.

    Edelmaniacs — yes, I think you coined it…I have heard Edelmanites too. : )

  • http://twitter.com/belindaang Belinda Ang

    Hey Michael

    That is exactly spot on. But sad to say still, not many people are comprehending it. Social media CAN be measured but there's no hard cold formula to the numbers. I would think of each brand and campaign objective as unique projects that need thinking into and setting a new set of metrics that makes sense to each of them.

  • benkoe

    I agree that metrics are important but ROI is not the metric I'd use in relation to PR, be it on the social media or otherwise. PR's metrics should include impact, sentiment, perception, even buzz, but not a direct ROI (as in dollar value). Sometimes we try to pretend there's ROI like using advertising equivalence to put a value on an article in the paper. But we know it's all just fluff.

  • Abogi

    Very cool blog post! Couldn't agree more. Even at Yahoo when i was PM for Y! India Search and Marketplace, it was very difficult to monitor the metrics and usage for products like Answers, del.li.cious, blogs etc. The only way we were doing it was simple things such as PageViews, UniqueUsers and basic subscriptions – are more people subscribing to the products, seeing the links etc. Twitter/Facebook wise, its only from what i hear from people saying they see my postings/notes is all i can tell. I'm sure some company out there will come up with the “omniture” for social media =).

  • tebase31

    I also once read that when asked about how to measure social media ROI, reply with: “What's the ROI of your relationships? What's the ROI of the relationship you have with your parents/spouse/kids etc etc.?” Some more food for thought…

  • http://seobrien.com/ Paul O'Brien

    When both PR firms and social marketers start reporting Direct traffic, search behavior, and impact on sales or acquired customers – all easily and directly attributable to PR, social marketing, and word of mouth – I'll join you in recognizing that they get it.

    Bottom line, PR creates awareness and interest, interest drives demand, demand drives customers. Doesn't matter if it is through twitter, a new print interview, or viral video – if the campaign is successful, more people will look for a brand, product, or service and that behavior is immediately and readily measurable.

    I'm not knocking PR in particular, your points are spot on, I'm just suggesting that I'm still not seeing it at the level it needs to be; in PR nor social marketing.

    I'd also argue the valuable metric isn't sales – sales is an objective, a goal, a measure of ROI but it is unfair, inappropriate, too narrow focused to value the impact of PR or social marketing on sales. Awareness and interest doesn't = dollars as the business is more responsible for conversion and consumers are fickle; they buy when they are good and ready (which is why direct marketing is “direct” and measurable to sales).

    PR and Social does translate in to relative, measurable engagement: if people are aware and interested, they will visit your site, walk into your store, comment more, call more, even tweet more – compare that to other campaigns and you identify the reach, effectiveness, and quality of your effort better than any other metrics can quantify.

    But what of ROI? Whether or not dollars are spent is dependent on so many other factors – quality of the product, price competitiveness, brand strength, discounts and offers, etc. In my experience, optimization of your conversion funnel can have a greater impact on your bottom line than any marketing campaign. Arguing that PR and Social must drive measurable sales is like saying the speed of your car is the only factor in whether or not you die in an accident – buckle up, the car and driver play a role. PR and Social Marketing step on the gas.

    Sorry for the rant, not even sure it makes sense…. too hopped up on caffeine and your post fires me up!!!

  • http://twitter.com/ralfhug Ralf Hug

    Michael,

    Good luck on your new assignment. Definitely refreshing that you will tackle this topic. It's important. You definitely have to do a lot of PR for your firm (used to be a client) and actually all others as well to make us believe that PR firms understand and live by metrics and allow us to better manage and steer the PR investment/retainers more flexible.

    Many marketing disciplines have developed a “science” and an “art” component and have in particular strong metrics as you know from your direct marketing world. PR is perceived and sold by PR firms more as an art. Hard to swallow for metrics-driven marketers.

    I think many PR firms including your current employer (others by the way as welll) are still hesitant and nervous discussing metrics. Even providing the necessary transparency of activities, i.e in form of a client portal is still underdeveloped. I get a lot more information and transparency if I use Vocus or Csion myself. I think PR firms should dramatically re-invent themselves in this area and look for more collaborative tools. They are out there, you use them but not collaboratively. There is a black box mentality from a PR firm perspective.

    I became over the years a big proponent of in-house PR and not outsource all of the work – be it for smaller and larger organizations and even after comparing retainer vs. headcount investment.

    PR is an important function of the communications mix and if it is so critical why outsource it?

    Also, in today's world a lot of the disciplines are so entangled/integrated and dependent on each other. The classical PR is gone and changes to what the industry calls PR 2.0, a lot tighter integrated with other marketing communications disciplines in particular web, interactive, blogging and social media.

    I recommend reading Brian Solis' blog at http://www.briansolis.com or read his latest book “Putting the Public back in Public Relations” and have a fresh look at PR overall.

  • http://twitter.com/Britopian Michael Brito

    What's the ROI of using the air conditioner in the summer and the heater in the winter? LOL .. thanks tebase.

  • http://marketingtraditionalbusinesses.com/blogging-for-business-does-it-really-work/ Pat Campbell

    “want to know how much they are investing and how much they can expect to see in return. Number of comments, RSS subscribers, twitter followers, retweets and a sentiment analysis is meaningless. ” They are certainly missing the mark aren't they!

    I just read a post on 'srmlums.wordpress.com' blog describing how IKEA with a new store opening created a FB account in the manager's name, posted 12 rooms of furniture, granted items from the pictures to the first follower who tagged the picture!!. In the little video in the post, I could see the manager engaging with his community. Do you think this store's customer base is lacking? I would say their Social Media relationship created patrons which in turn gives great ROI which for FaceBook was zip!!

    Wouldn't take much of a survey to find out who is buying in the store because of the FB connection with “Gustav”. Soft marketing built the brand and the sales volume there.

  • PR_issues

    very useful information about measuring tools in PR. will try to keep them in my mind. thanks.
    I guess it contributed a bit more into my knowledge about social media in general and PR in particular.
    If you’re interested, there’s my webcast on Social media use in business http://lifeisworthy-prissues.blogspot.com/2010/… I shared my insight on social media tools used in business and would be grateful to see some thoughts and comments on the issue.

  • http://onlyseotips.blogspot.com seo tips

    This is great work. Very impressive, indeed. I myself am involved in developing a couple of measurement concepts and should use your work as a reference, I shall certainly cite you. Have you made any updates to these? Also, is there a way you could either possibly post a video taking us through this line by line? Perhaps even on YouTube? Thanks and great work!

  • http://www.k9stud.com Puppies for Sale

    I'm not knocking PR in particular, your points are spot on, I'm just suggesting that I'm still not seeing it at the level it needs to be; in PR nor social marketing.